It kind of just seemed like an incendiary fun thing to say to promote a record, but ended up hurting people’s feelings. It does feel like Martin is punching down on Jack White. I understand why, but I always felt really uncomfortable being called egg punk. Until that spin article and now you can suck on these eggs. I guess I just came here to say buy my record.

paperhose

Circling back, TV Ghost. I remember they had definitely one dude that was like 16-17 who was just a dickhead even for a teen.

I thought Matt Horseshit coined Shitgaze (in that (online?) mtv interview?)? Either way, PH were great. We could have used more of the same.

      Where does WEIRD PUNK fit into all of this? Someone needs to make a spreadsheet or at least a flowchart.

        jeff g yeah I've heard quite a few people reference shitgaze but to me this feels more in line with weird punk. I feel weird punk became way more flooded with copycats and there were way more records that came out under that umbrella. Plus it was also made up of a lot of one person bedroom acts where the main focus seemed recording tricks over songs.

          jeff g I definitely don’t really know what Egg Punk is but chop it up extensively regarding Weird Punk and Shit Gaze.

            I'll rep Weird Punk to the grave. Not so for Mysterious Guy Hardcore.

            It was the keyboardist of TV Ghost, he got into legal problems and really mellowed out.

            I always thought dry-Roy ruled in the MGHC camp.

            Where does the FNU Ronnies and clone sit in all this for everyone?

              CLARKO

              From the Permission EP to the This Is A Forest 7" has to be one of the top funniest followups in music.

              Then you flipped to the B side and it is Lumbar Yard. jfc. wasn't the producer Sublime associated? I mean now i wouldn't complain about a sax solo ride out on certain songs, but for the preEggs then it was more frowned upon.

                  I'm glad someone mentioned Weirdo Punk bc that's what I called Egg Punk bands when I first heard them.

                  Nathan Loud So much of the egg punk over-saturation coincided with our Age of Over-Saturation. There’s too much of everything. Maybe it seems worse with egg punk because it’s fairly one-dimensional.

                  Egg punk's issue isn’t merely oversaturation, but the way it happened. It wasn’t so much that too many bands emerged, but that they all ended up sounding the same. The outsider spirit that once made it fresh and unpredictable has been flattened into an endless series of clichés. As a result, what began as a spontaneous movement has turned into a codified aesthetic—and when a style stops evolving, it ages rapidly.

                  Perhaps I’m over-analyzing a genre that, in the end, sounds like an alien short-circuiting on a drum machine. Regardless, the Coneheads remain the best.

                      The Touch The Feel From the Permission EP to the This Is A Forest 7" has to be one of the top funniest followups in music.

                      Then you flipped to the B side and it is Lumbar Yard. jfc. wasn't the producer Sublime associated? I mean now i wouldn't complain about a sax solo ride out on certain songs, but for the preEggs then it was more frowned upon.

                      Sorry, but who are we talking about here?

                          Bought my VIP tix to the relaunched Scion Fest, sadly it is being held on the same weekend as the Corporate Retreat. 🙁

                          remember when the Termbo Gen X were so sadboi energy over Wavves actually becoming popular while them and their friends were the soCalled Shitgaze generation that a fraction of people knew or cared about. a ha ha now it is Millennials, this time with Gen Z Eggs

                          Johnny Sick Shitgaze generation

                          Of the bands mentioned on the cover I would say Psychedelic Horseshit, Pink Reason, TV Ghost (at least their early releases) and Nothing People hold up really well. TNV and Eat Skull are okay, but I don't need any of their records. Never listened to Factums and apart from the first couple of singles Blank Dogs quickly became formulaic and boring.

                          Which means Shitgaze > Egg Punk. However, there are some good bands from the "egg generation". Coneheads, Eric Nervous and Lumpy & The Dumpers are the first ones that come to mind.

                              While searching online for this Mr Egg that everyone hates, I discovered that James McDonald of British post punk greats The Fakes went on to produce techno under various pseudonyms. Mr Egg was one of them.

                              Gimmie Sopor I found the only comparison with egg punk was in how people felt weird about having a joke genre thrown around. Maybe weird ounk is better. Especially since I legit forgot that term.

                              Still think it is actually good to have these stupid terms b/c then idiot hicks like me or some european's like ratcharge can hear actually this shit!

                              Last night I got in a more "suburb life" friend's car and he was rocking egg punk spotify. Had to inform him of the online debate and he was basically bummed out by it.

                              Eat Skull are one of the best. Not good with words so I cannot say it so clearly, but they really try to go outside the box. Each song has a dofferent idea. The overall sound is their own and does not have a clear precendent (to my limited knowledge). Nowhere near the every song sounds the sameness of the better egg punk bands or the mid tier shit fi bands like Factums.

                                  Gimmie Sopor I have the magazine with me. There is a five-page article on shitgaze. If you are interested, I can upload it-obviously it is in Italian.

                                  The Factums I loved them at the time. Along with Nothing People and Pink Noise, they were among my favorite bands in the weird punk scene. Their debut album, "Alien Native," was released in 2004 as a self-produced CD-R, only to be reissued on vinyl in 2007 by the Siltbreeze label.

                                  Their sound is dirty, dark and hypnotic, like a fever dream. They mix krautrock, post-punk and noise, with repetitive rhythms, grainy synths and guitars that sound like distant echoes of something eerie.

                                  At times they are reminiscent of Chrome, for their psychedelic and alienating approach; in other tracks they evoke the industrial minimalism of early Cabaret Voltaire. But there is also a freer and more experimental soul, such as on the album Gilding The Lilies, which brings them closer to the sound collages of Throbbing Gristle.