• Kkai

    • Post #91

    re: oversaturation, i do think it's sort of interesting how excessively online music/people can result in genre acceleration. obv "the egg sound" predated the pandemic. and i'm not sure where i read this (some review -- sorry state or something?) but seems like a lot of eggy bands like prison affair grew out of 2020 pandemic bedroom recording and digital idea swapping. so you get these bands all riffing on the same idea in germany spain australia usa. i wonder if the feeling that it's all unmoored is in part that overly-digital element.

    and yes, all of this is further facilitated role that spotify plays in scraping forums (probably this one!) for genre ideas, compiling them into playlists, and then feeding them back to listeners. in the liz pelly book she talks about this wrt the "lo-fi beats" scene which feels really similar to egg insofar as there was a creative origin that quickly got ground down into its most derivative elements. as mentioned above, there is nothing particularly new here in the history of music. but the speed and scale with which it happens does seem to leave something to be desired.

    Reading this thread I realize that I don't know who "Snooper" is and I feel pretty happy about it. Getting older isn't so bad after all!

    Also, interesting take above, "kai". I guess another thing is how "insular"/ "self-sufficient" (not sure these are the right words) micro-scenes can get nowadays. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if there are kids out there who only, or almost only, listen to "egg punk". And who consider Coneheads as the prehistory of music or something.

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      • CClif

        • Post #93

        ratcharge The insular part of your point goes for large parts of society at this point i feel, unfortunately.

          It kind of just seemed like an incendiary fun thing to say to promote a record, but ended up hurting people’s feelings. It does feel like Martin is punching down on Jack White. I understand why, but I always felt really uncomfortable being called egg punk. Until that spin article and now you can suck on these eggs. I guess I just came here to say buy my record.

          paperhose

          Circling back, TV Ghost. I remember they had definitely one dude that was like 16-17 who was just a dickhead even for a teen.

          I thought Matt Horseshit coined Shitgaze (in that (online?) mtv interview?)? Either way, PH were great. We could have used more of the same.

              Where does WEIRD PUNK fit into all of this? Someone needs to make a spreadsheet or at least a flowchart.

                jeff g yeah I've heard quite a few people reference shitgaze but to me this feels more in line with weird punk. I feel weird punk became way more flooded with copycats and there were way more records that came out under that umbrella. Plus it was also made up of a lot of one person bedroom acts where the main focus seemed recording tricks over songs.

                  jeff g I definitely don’t really know what Egg Punk is but chop it up extensively regarding Weird Punk and Shit Gaze.

                    I'll rep Weird Punk to the grave. Not so for Mysterious Guy Hardcore.

                    It was the keyboardist of TV Ghost, he got into legal problems and really mellowed out.

                    I always thought dry-Roy ruled in the MGHC camp.

                    Where does the FNU Ronnies and clone sit in all this for everyone?

                      CLARKO

                      From the Permission EP to the This Is A Forest 7" has to be one of the top funniest followups in music.

                      Then you flipped to the B side and it is Lumbar Yard. jfc. wasn't the producer Sublime associated? I mean now i wouldn't complain about a sax solo ride out on certain songs, but for the preEggs then it was more frowned upon.

                          I'm glad someone mentioned Weirdo Punk bc that's what I called Egg Punk bands when I first heard them.

                          Nathan Loud So much of the egg punk over-saturation coincided with our Age of Over-Saturation. There’s too much of everything. Maybe it seems worse with egg punk because it’s fairly one-dimensional.

                          Egg punk's issue isn’t merely oversaturation, but the way it happened. It wasn’t so much that too many bands emerged, but that they all ended up sounding the same. The outsider spirit that once made it fresh and unpredictable has been flattened into an endless series of clichés. As a result, what began as a spontaneous movement has turned into a codified aesthetic—and when a style stops evolving, it ages rapidly.

                          Perhaps I’m over-analyzing a genre that, in the end, sounds like an alien short-circuiting on a drum machine. Regardless, the Coneheads remain the best.

                              The Touch The Feel From the Permission EP to the This Is A Forest 7" has to be one of the top funniest followups in music.

                              Then you flipped to the B side and it is Lumbar Yard. jfc. wasn't the producer Sublime associated? I mean now i wouldn't complain about a sax solo ride out on certain songs, but for the preEggs then it was more frowned upon.

                              Sorry, but who are we talking about here?

                                  Bought my VIP tix to the relaunched Scion Fest, sadly it is being held on the same weekend as the Corporate Retreat. 🙁

                                  remember when the Termbo Gen X were so sadboi energy over Wavves actually becoming popular while them and their friends were the soCalled Shitgaze generation that a fraction of people knew or cared about. a ha ha now it is Millennials, this time with Gen Z Eggs

                                  Johnny Sick Shitgaze generation

                                  Of the bands mentioned on the cover I would say Psychedelic Horseshit, Pink Reason, TV Ghost (at least their early releases) and Nothing People hold up really well. TNV and Eat Skull are okay, but I don't need any of their records. Never listened to Factums and apart from the first couple of singles Blank Dogs quickly became formulaic and boring.

                                  Which means Shitgaze > Egg Punk. However, there are some good bands from the "egg generation". Coneheads, Eric Nervous and Lumpy & The Dumpers are the first ones that come to mind.