A Case for Hatching: My Eulogy for Egg Punk Explained by Martin Meyer

hotsounds

https://www.paperfacezine.com/post/a-case-for-hatching-my-eulogy-for-egg-punk-explained

Zap Pack

hotsounds he says interesting things, but you could honestly replace egg punk with any other genre and most of it would still apply. There will always be people in every genre that don’t do anything different and rip-off other bands. To talk about egg punk like this always exaggerates how big of a genre it is. Snooper and Prison Affair are probably the two biggest egg punk bands right now and they’re really not even that big of bands.

Randall

So far out of the egg-o-sphere that I had no idea Marty had addressed it and that it made anyone upset. Where did he post the original comment? I didn’t think he was on social media.
It’s strange to me that anyone got upset. Egg punk seems to be pretty openly derided at this point. It kind of shocks me that I still get demos from people who self describe as egg punk.

hotsounds

Randall

Randall he wrote a blurb for the upcoming Evinspragg LP on his label's Bandcamp. It's pretty great.

peeblood

Randall it’s under the write-up for the most recent record on the Inscrutable Bandcamp.

Interesting take but personally I’m still obsessed with first drafts, first takes, “instant music”, which to me does not necessarily reference egg punk. I think a lot of special mistakes, improvisation, and that lightning in a bottle magic can be missed when you’re spending copious amounts of time working on a song/recording. First thought best thought is not always the best route but it’s worth exploring. But hell what do I know.

paperhose

My band started around 2010. We were/are deeply inspired/influenced amazing bands from that era: Pink Reason, Tyvek, Home Blitz, ... One of the reasons I was able to find out about these bands was the music media coverage--aided by the introduction of the term "shitgaze".

One of our early shows was opening for ** ***** in Missoula, MT. They were incredible live and we drank a lot together that night. I was young at the time, but they were even younger. However, some of the band members were not nice to us. Suprisingly the reason was that we clearly were enthusiastic about their band and other peer bands from the midwest. They mocked us for liking shitgaze music. We were accused of liking Wavves. My memory stops there, but it was not so pleasant.

At the end of the day shitgaze was some joke term for music informed by mike rep and other columbus heros. Egg Punk is same except it is gizmos and other Indiana sounding punks. Snooper replaced Wavves. Please stop complaining about this stuff.

Just the other day someone legit told me Soup Activists sound suspiciously similar to Home Blitz! Is it ok to be shitgaze in 2025?

hotsounds

paperhose no idea what shitgaze is but home blitz is pop to my ears. tyvek is rock n roll.

Clif

paperhose Name names. was it a missoula band?

11th hour stubble

peeblood yep. I'm pretty sure the "freeform freakouts" on the first Red Krayola indulge this principle as well.

paperhose this type of arrogance doesn't come from a place of deep knowledge. The more narrow your view of music, the more likely you are to conflate things in a reductive way.

Marty is hip but this specific tirade could just as easily apply to any hyper specific genre that is purely aesthetic. Less talk more rockin outside the box says me.

The Touch The Feel

paperhose

Circling back, TV Ghost. I remember they had definitely one dude that was like 16-17 who was just a dickhead even for a teen.

I thought Matt Horseshit coined Shitgaze (in that (online?) mtv interview?)? Either way, PH were great. We could have used more of the same.

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I thought “egg” and “chain” were just memes. Very embarrassing for all parties involved

ratcharge

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Uptown ruler 666 420 I thought “egg” and “chain” were just memes. Very embarrassing for all parties involved

You're not the only one, I'm so naïve to all of this that I thought "egg vs. chain" was just a pre-pandemic meme as well!

Nathan Loud So much of the egg punk over-saturation coincided with our Age of Over-Saturation. There’s too much of everything. Maybe it seems worse with egg punk because it’s fairly one-dimensional.

This is exactly why I don't like egg punk.

Being one-dimensional and over-saturated in this day and age seems to be the criteria to get astronomical. This goes hand-in-hand with having a big Instagram following, cultivating a Spotify presence, et cetera. Egg punk is disseminated through these avenues. A lot of egg punk followers are quite young - people who have grown up on 'modern' social media platforms (Instagram, TikTok, Spotify, etc.). This includes me.

That being said - punching down by calling egg punk artists 'clueless' in [current year] is so silly - especially under the guise of 'protest, feeling, and expression in our community.' Despite it all, how the egg punkers are getting their music across is also a good frame of reference to get 'protest, feeling, and expression' across in the landscape we are currently in!

We can talk about how DIY is not what it was due to the music industry catching on, and subsequently fucking us over by way of middleman services, however that is a debate for another time...

paperhose

hotsounds You mean you forgot. Or too cool to admit you remember?

hotsounds

i blame henry rollins for egg punk

Randall

Clif Name names. was it a missoula band?

Two letters then five letters. Super young around 2010. I think you can figure it out. Unnamed band were all around arrogant little shitheads but they were also like 15.

Clif

Randall if it is one person's name for the band I can figure it out. if it is a band band, I am drawing a blank.

paperhose

Clif Not Missoula. The band was not dd owen related. Not from Montana. Older members were cool then and I would say friends now (I hope). Younger members 100% deserve a pass / my nerdy self deserved some teasing too.

Not hard to believe some hick kid out there is downloading egg punk crap and might accidentally hear puppet wipes, xv, and heavy mother 2 on johnny sicks youtube page. How can that bother anyone?

Josh

It’s a scandal Randall!

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it was DD Owenn

hotsounds

paperhose in 2010 i was 11 years old so i literally i dont know

sixbigboys

It was easy, it was cheap, go and…make multiple drafts, sit on them for a while, have a think, tinker with the song over time, re-record it as many times as necessary, then release it when the results are stunning!

Randall

sixbigboys t was easy, it was cheap, go and…make multiple drafts, sit on them for a while, have a think, tinker with the song over time, re-record it as many times as necessary, then release it when the results are stunning!

Haha. Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it

paperhose

hotsounds You are rad and do more for music in 2025 than most. Just from where I sit egg is not such a threat, but possibly I am wrong. Are the LES far right kids rocking out to egg punk?

There was also a movement called "indie sleaze" ten years earlier than shitgaze: strokes, yeah yeah yeahs, tv on the radio, oneida. Nobody called it that then though. There will be an official statement on this soon.

peeblood

What if every band ripped off television personalities instead of devo