going back to the original meme, I read this all as chain won the war
A Case for Hatching: My Eulogy for Egg Punk Explained by Martin Meyer
FoolDiddly the chain was always meant to scramble the egg
whos this martin guy. sorry he didnt spend time writing his songs each of mine i spend i dunno lets say 10 to 15 years.....
Neon Taste Records They were fine when they came out. I bought the 7"s and enjoyed them but I think they're long gone
Yeah they never made an impression on me. I saw them live and I will give it to them for being really tight. It’s pretty nuts that with just like 3 or 4 7”s they are playing Coachella so clearly they know more than I
Maybe it's bc I was so far removed from current punk at the time, but the first time I even heard the term egg punk was from that meme poster. And I actually found cool bands from it lol
I like Prison Affair fine, and, yeah, they were really good live. But I started to see them getting hyped in non-punk circles, and that was a bit of a head scratcher. Like why them over the other bands doing roughly the same thing? It’s gotta be their branding, right?
Also, that first Snooper record is good.
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hotsounds You are rad and do more for music in 2025 than most. Just from where I sit egg is not such a threat, but possibly I am wrong. Are the LES far right kids rocking out to egg punk?
There was also a movement called "indie sleaze" ten years earlier than shitgaze: strokes, yeah yeah yeahs, tv on the radio, oneida. Nobody called it that then though. There will be an official statement on this soon.
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whatever ya think of the article or egg punk in general, I just think it's sick that people are talking critically about punk again.. it's interesting to see where everyone's heads are at with this kinda thing, and I think the whole egg/chain spectrum notion, even though born as a joke, has at least gotten people thinking and wanting to expand on ideas around punk which can only be a good thing...
I see what Martin's saying in the article, and I really like the guy and the Dumpers (was lucky enough to get to support them on their last show in st louis!) but ofc i disagree with the notion that bands have to try harder, especially in the realm of DIY and punk... there's just as many instances of bands trying TOO hard and having to release a heavily worked on LP retrospectively after the 5 year DIY band timespan passes haha -- how many great live songs have ya seen ruined by overworking them in the practice room over the years?? or great bands who took way too long to record and then got in a fight and left the recordings on a hard drive somewhere...
with martin's example of RMFC, the early records may be very influenced by egg punk world, sure, but the new LP is also heavily influenced by serious contemporary post-punk. i agree that the LP is put together better, but it also lost a lot of the spark and excitement of the early stuff. both phases of RMFC are interesting in totally different ways imo, and being prescriptive about "working harder" would erase so much thrilling music from being created (RMFC may not have existed if it was being drafted for eternity for example)... a good healthy punk ecosystem needs bits and pieces of everything, and i'm personally pumped to hear some new flash-in-the-pan exciteable kids make music, and i'm pumped to hear this hard-worked, highly constructed project martin's working on whenever it surfaces, sounds sick!
sorry for this essay length response, but it's a pretty interesting topic i reckon... and as someone in my late-30s (i assume similar age to martin), i can see myself falling into the same trap of trying to tell the next gen how to do things. i think there's lessons to pass on about staying within the realms of DIY practice and not falling for music industry tricks, to be autonomous and build a community rather than trying to become the ~ next great artiste of the punk world ~ , but that's besides the point... if the young kids (egg punk or no) are worth their salt, they'll read this and do what we all did at 19, and what all the punks thru history did too: which is to tell the older heads to fuck off and build their own thing their own way, with sounds that they love and appreciate.
(but i do hope bands of the future ditch the one-note high-pitched synth, turn the bass channel up, and write songs about more than just crayons or whatever!)
hotsounds he says interesting things, but you could honestly replace egg punk with any other genre and most of it would still apply. There will always be people in every genre that don’t do anything different and rip-off other bands. To talk about egg punk like this always exaggerates how big of a genre it is. Snooper and Prison Affair are probably the two biggest egg punk bands right now and they’re really not even that big of bands.
I can't remember anyone complaining about the hundreds of bands that started playing 'no-fi trash punk' in the wake of Supercharger, The Rip Offs, Teengenerate, Registrators, The Motards and so on. On the other hand, 90s garage punk was my coming of age-music and I swallowed most of it with a good appetite. If I had been a grumpy 40-something in the 90s, I probably would have dismissed most of the bands of that wave as boring copy cats. But I think a lot of garage punk from the 90s still holds up, although there can be a certain amount of nostalgia involved. In any case, originality and putting a lot of time and thought into writing music was not really the focus, quite the opposite.
PS: I appreciate some bands that play so-called egg punk, but most of them sound pretty stale in my opinion. Full circle I guess.
Saw Snooper live last year and must say they were really good. I'd listened to them a bit beforehand and wasn't particularly impressed, but they were playing on a Monday and as I'd worked all weekend and had a few days off, it was a no-brainer to go. Especially considering they were playing a venue 15 minutes walk from my flat.
Had no idea of their popularity though, turned out to be a sold out gig but managed to get a spot on the guest list via the support band. Mostly late teens and 20-somethings in the audience, plus a handful of the 'usual suspects'. Not a big place, holds about 150 people, but I was expecting maybe 30 - 40 people in the crowd.
Anyway, the kids went nuts when Snooper played and it was nice to see so many young people at a punk gig. Usually the average age at these kind of gigs in my city is close to 40 years old.
Gimmie Sopor That pretty perfectly describes my experience seeing Snooper last year.
I've seen snooper 3 times (superfan?!?), they came through montreal twice and asked simps to play and at goner fest. they are great for whipping up a frenzy, the work involved in bringing all the cool peewee style papier macher props, etc. I think their visual components are more interesting than the music, but what irked people most, myself included, is the athleticism element. It feels like a pseudo christian track meet, and i'm not so into that. I think the puppet theatre influence is cool and if they found a way to pursue that like Quintron and Miss Pussycat, or expand their stage set to psychedelic heights it would be interesting, but being subsumed by music industry will inevitably force them to stream line their act and the music left barren will speak for itself (and it'll say do jumping jacks!)
Kevin E Gimmie Sopor That pretty perfectly describes my experience seeing Snooper last year.
Talked to the venue's band booker after the gig. He was also surprised by the turnout and told me that they had received lots of emails and requests on the Facebook event for extra tickets and spots on the guest list. He was expecting a slow night but took a chance because he likes Snooper. It should be said that this was in the middle of summer, during the holiday season, when many people are out of town. So the conclusion is that Snooper are by no means a major league band, but they are much more popular than most of the acts discussed on the Total Punk Forums.
Gimmie Sopor I'm guilty of it as well, but there's certainly a 'bubble' I find myself in, and I have no idea what 18-25 year olds are legitimately into - as it should be haha
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I finally got around to listening to Evinspragg (the band that prompted Martin’s eulogy), and it just sounds like a Lumpy records band trying their hand at a Straw Man Army record. Maybe the rest of the record will be mind blowing, but—I dunno—seems like none of this was all that warranted. To echo @Uptown ruler 666 420 I just find the whole thing embarrassing (including the fact that, I, a man in his 40s, feel the need to weigh in on this shit).
sixbigboys I was joking on a discord yesterday that it's refreshing to have a punk drama that doesn't involve abuse (morbid)