The hardcore thread

ratcharge > sicboy I'd imagine the most egregious one is Scowl being sponsored by Taco Bell or something like that. But then it opens the can of worms of whether they are "real hardcore" or not.

yeah that was a big one.. makes ya distrust the whole enterprise! there's a few deals snaking around oz, some banks trying to license images from bands, etc.. a non-alcoholic beer company called HEAPS NORMAL has started a record label in Sydney, mostly for smaller groups, not always hardcore, but still gives me the willies (echoes of SCION). here Speed (who are all lovely people etc) are probably the bigger ones with deals with Foot Locker, Monster, some instrument brands etc, but as sicboy mentioned, i feel like Scowl, Speed etc are a part of a new commercial hc world that's kind of a different thing entirely.. or at least not in this wheelhouse? was also pretty surprised when in Europe recently to see how common the booking agency set up was! when did that become a thing? i was really sold on Bad Breeding when their last record came out, enjoyed the fact that they had a lengthy anarchist booklet as insert... and then overseas saw that they no gods, no mastered their way into a booking agency supported tour with no engagement with local bands (sorry to sound very '90s here...)

i try not to get bogged down in this stuff and appreciate the labels doing the good stuff tho. everything coming thru SENTIERO FUTURO AUTOPRODUZIONI for e.g., and TOTAL PEACE from Arizona are reliably really really good with what seems from afar to be a spotless DIY ethos..

BARELY HUMAN I've always wondered how big Speed is within Aus. They seem huge here in the US in certain markets.

sicboy I've always wondered how big Speed is within Aus. They seem huge here in the US in certain markets.

they're enormous... i swear you see a Speed t-shirt every time you leave the house. their music and business decisions are really not my thing, and i think have played a part in telling the next generation of hc bands in oz that "you too can work hard and get sponsored by a shoe company" which really bums me out... howeeever, i gotta admit it's been impressive to see em play the game and get to that level. just need more community-focused HC bands in their wake to level the playing field and provide that alternative, which is around here and there..

The guests on that "What Are You Listening To" YT show I posted somewhere were talking about some "giant separate HC scene" and I imagine Turnstile fits that - are they sponsored by anyone? It's a band name that would fall under, don't wanna hear them just from the name but had to investigate...This is a huge show and the sound is definitely more of a hybrid...

googling them, there is a big sponsorship company with the same name!
https://turnstilegroup.com/

Randall those free scion split singles were sweet though. my fav local shop would included coupons in their weekly emails - show the coupon, get a single while they lasted

May have mentioned this before; I'm digging this snotty Hattiesburg hardcore. Six songs, around 6 minutes. Silo Kids demo

The Sorry State weekly newsletter is my fount of hardcore knowledge. The staff picks section isn't limited to genre though so has a nice range of tips, which can include Daniel going deep into The Stranglers or The Undertones. I like it.

https://www.sorrystaterecords.com/pages/sorry-state-s-weekly-newsletter

Ha! In my world, Kasshuve's EP is recent, but it was released in 2020. Anyway, really good stuff

Al Dorado May have mentioned this before; I'm digging this snotty Hattiesburg hardcore. Six songs, around 6 minutes. Silo Kids demo

sick! i missed this one... the hattiesburg crew are so fucken cool. played there in 2018 and was blown away by what they were doing in such a small town with limited resources. and just the love of putting on shows and trying to find ways to keep things interesting. we were the only out of towner when we played so they set up a support band battle royal with this big digital clock counting down 10 minutes, each band had to play one song, change instruments, and were eliminated if they were still playing when the timer was out. winner got to headline the show with a full set. coolest thing i've ever seen!

BARELY HUMAN when we played so they set up a support band battle royal with this big digital clock counting down 10 minutes, each band had to play one song, change instruments, and were eliminated if they were still playing when the timer was out. winner got to headline the show with a full set. coolest thing i've ever seen!

Wow! That is so hilarious and genius

Toxic State coming out with a Nisemono LP sometime soon most exciting thing for me

sicboy
in light of the egg punk drama i'll enthusiastically +1 the "members of snooper" band G.U.N. being one of the best recent LPs i've heard

Vinnie Vacuum bought their lp and tape. going to see them on March 1st

FoolDiddly hell yeah

Fresh new combo out of Truro, Nova Scotia, featuring 50% of the people who made the aforementioned Misanthropic Minds 7".

Ruby I swear every new Nova Scotia punk band that comes across my various feeds includes Cody haha

sicboy Yes, Cody's the genius of these parts. Things would be mighty bleak without him.

I asked this over on the see/saw discord, but I figured I'd ask here too. I feel like I'm missing some formative hardcore history. Listening to some of the recent crop of more "weirdo" hardcore bands (Lasso, Electric Chair, Ancient Filth being three in particular), I'm realizing I'm not sure where a lot of these sounds came from! The answer is likely that they're influenced by lots of stuff outside of hardcore, but am I missing out on influential bands? Obvious reference point for EC is Poison Idea, but otherwise I'm trying to trace back some of these sounds to the source and feeling like I have some major gaps in my knowledge.