The hardcore thread

Ruby

sicboy Yes, Cody's the genius of these parts. Things would be mighty bleak without him.

terminalsunset

I asked this over on the see/saw discord, but I figured I'd ask here too. I feel like I'm missing some formative hardcore history. Listening to some of the recent crop of more "weirdo" hardcore bands (Lasso, Electric Chair, Ancient Filth being three in particular), I'm realizing I'm not sure where a lot of these sounds came from! The answer is likely that they're influenced by lots of stuff outside of hardcore, but am I missing out on influential bands? Obvious reference point for EC is Poison Idea, but otherwise I'm trying to trace back some of these sounds to the source and feeling like I have some major gaps in my knowledge.

ratcharge

terminalsunset Havent' heard the other two but Electric Chair doesn't sound "weird" in any kind of way to me? Just classic sounding, straight-up early eighties influenced USHC, ie they probably listen to Jerry's Kids and the Boston not L.A comp? Correct me if I'm wrong, I think I only listened to their first 7''.

Lammie

terminalsunset A guy I know always compares Electric Chair to the Germs. They have a ratty quality like Crazy Spirit did, I guess. I'd also say the three bands you listed are basically tapping into the original hardcore bands, Lasso perhaps more into South American '80s greats I am not aware of. Ask Martin Sorrondeguy or the band, I'd say. Ancient Filth sounds a bit more polished than the other two to me, but not to the point that I'm tapping out. I like their Lp a lot and stocked it. No copies sold yet though so the Europeans are yet to take note.
I'm too stupid to hear whether guitar riffs are different or influenced by a particular band. After 20 years of listening to hardcore punk I still don't understand what a dbeat is. Don't try to explain. I don't care.

sicboy

I also wouldn't consider any of them weird either. Just classic USHC like you said. Maybe bringing in some 'weirdness' via Void

ratcharge

sicboy I see what you mean with Void, but at this point they've influenced so many bands that whatever felt "weird" about them... Well, it doesn't anymore? Still the best though, don't get me wrong.

BARELY HUMAN

sicboy Maybe bringing in some 'weirdness' via Void

on the topic of Void inspo -- OSBO from sydney are my favourite hc band in sydney atm and have been for a while... much '80s USHC influence, but in an interesting way i think, not a paint-by-numbers way. also one of the few HC bands in syd who play more with non-hc bands than they do the pure stuff, popping up on all kinda bills. real hardcore for the people stuff!

sicboy

ratcharge Fully agree. I see the new(ish) crop of bands like this (Electric Chair, etc) as a sort of continuation of what was happening in the 00s with labels like Painkiller and No Way.

edited to add...it's 100% my favorite 'flavor' of hardcore

terminalsunset

I guess I'm using "weirdo" to differentiate from the more macho muscley hardcore. Electric Chair is probably one of the easier to pin down in terms of influence, although some of the guitar leads are really out of left field to my ear in a good way! Lasso is the most recent band I heard where I just felt like I didn't have the requisite reference points to know precisely what I was listening to. They're from Brazil, so maybe I need to dive deeper into that scene at large?

Sid_Delicious

Stoked for that Nisemono LP on Toxic State

Lammie

BARELY HUMAN Someone recommended this Ep to me before. I like it. Do you know whether it would be possible to get a bunch of copies to the glorious Netherlands?

sicboy

BARELY HUMAN I dig that OSBO record. I think I read about it on Yellow Green Red.

sicboy

Lammie I'm too stupid to hear whether guitar riffs are different or influenced by a particular band. After 20 years of listening to hardcore punk I still don't understand what a dbeat is. Don't try to explain. I don't care.

I'm with you 100% there. All I care about is if it rips or not.

Gimmie Sopor

Lammie Do you know whether it would be possible to get a bunch of copies to the glorious Netherlands?

Just listened to OSBO. Among the best stuff posted in this thread so far if you ask me. If there will be copies available from the Netherlands I will buy a copy.

Gimmie Sopor

The whole D-beat worship thing is pretty ridiculous. Dressed up 80s cosplay punks can take their shoelaces off around their heads and stuff them up their bums.

Lammie

The Oily Boys Lp was fucking killer and I think Osbo shares members with that band. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

BARELY HUMAN

Lammie The Oily Boys Lp was fucking killer and I think Osbo shares members with that band. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

naw no members shared with OB, tho that oily boys LP is one of the greats in my mind, such a wild ride...

Osbo is the singer Tim from Tim & the Boys, Joe is guitarist from Royal Headache/Bed Wettin Bad Boys, plus Ravi from The Baby on bass, Lucy from Photogenic & The Baby on second guitar, and Jake on drums who i think last played in Aloha Units. All the best people with a fiiiine lineage from non-HC sydney bands

Gimmie Sopor

The mid-tempo OSBO tunes remind me a bit of Sex/Vid, one of the few somewhat contemporary HC bands I listen to on a regular basis

Lammie

Gimmie Sopor Never listen to them anymore, but their tracks live in my DNA. Great band. I really loved Cult Ritual too.

FoolDiddly

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