I think people started conflating egg punk with both weird punk and devo core at some point, where I would typically think of egg punk as the intersection of those micro-genres. The meme that named the genre presented all these bands on a chain/egg spectrum, with the Dumpers at like 3/4 the way to full egg. So, by that logic even, like, Warthog was a little egg punk. Anyway, I think that spectrum both highlights the point that egg punk cuts across weird punk, but it also served to muddy the waters in making the distinction, which is probably why folks are too loose with the term these days.

In any event, I feel like “lazy” is the wrong word here. Because it’s not like some kid churning out the most derivative of egg punk is failing to work hard—they’re just failing to be original.

  • Kkai

    • Post #144

    is there a weird punk explainer? that one passed me by

      hotsounds And what an incredible name hot sounds is! so much better than paperface! I totally understand bro

          Mitch C. ok well have you listened to their latest record cuzz.....

            Mitch C. agreed and the last uranium club record was totally slept on. its great to see a group evolve and steer clear from expectations.

              kai To me « weird punk » is the Termbo name, ie « the OG name », while « shitgaze » is the name Spin or whatever-shitty-magazine came up with afterwards for all these bands from the mid to late 00s that have been mentioned here : Tyvek, Pink Reason, Home Blitz, Psychedelic Horseshit, Times New Viking, Eat Skull, etc. I think there was even a « the year weird punk broke » article in Termbo, maybe in like 2007? Or was it 2008? It was called like that because this wave of bands was a nice change from the orthodoxy of garage bands from the previous decade or so, including the 90s. Which can be explained at least partly by the massive democratization of file-sharing, hence of obscure/ « new » influences for bands, as it was the glory days of Mediafire, MegaUpload, etc. Anyway, that’s how I remember things, but I guess someone else might disagree.

                  ratcharge Ah those days of endless blog posts and mediafire! Here's the "Weird Punk" disc of a 12-disc comp that was posted on some blog or another back then. Obviously a mixed bag that no single genre term could really encapsulate...Mayyors, who rule, but no Puffy Areolas?!

                      ratcharge Puffy Areolas record is incredible. Top track is "get me out of houston".

                        Sukebe_GG Dear all, I stand corrected. Weird Punk is Egg Punk of yore in sense of the number of bands and varying quality.

                        Shitgaze similarity was just how invented by lifers (pink reason and wolf eyes) as a joke people thought was funny and inside baseball for a second, then started to react negative.

                            It's funny how all these micro-genres names were created. "Powerviolence" was an inside joke of I-don't-remember-which-one from these California guys ; "Mysterious guy hardcore" was a joke by Brace "Fuck DAESH" Belden ; "crust de salon", the French saying, was a joke by parisian grindcore archivist Thrash Manu. But wait, now I feel like I'm posting this in the wrong thread. Oh well.

                            • CClif

                              • Post #155

                              Sukebe_GG Puffy Areolas were the greatest live band walking this planet for a couple of years around 2010

                                I disagree, the Puffys with Dusty(RIP) were even BETTER than everyone is saying.

                                paperhose I'm just a nobody so what do I know but I always thought Weird Punk was more freeform, art-influenced, and psychedelic while Egg Punk was more simple, abrasive, and early hardcore-influenced.

                                  Saw Puffys 2 night in a row at Class. One night with krauty on vox and one without bc I think he got too fucked up the night before. Met Dusty and we stayed in touch a little bit. He was a sweet guy. But ya puffys, that first night especially is still one of the best live shows I've seen. True freak music. Sic alps also played and unholy 2. Tried to book puffys in Canada but dude said they'd get turned away at the border haha.

                                  Fuck man they ruled.

                                  Cheveu/Tyvek tour, with Damon from Puffys playing screaming wah guitar for Tyvek was peak weird punk.

                                  Here’s a harebrained theory for ya, it's far from original but:
                                  Within the punk adjacent music community (or whatver), a place briming with amateurism and potential, we may be putting too much stock into the “quick study” archetype. The folks who can mimic are the ones with “chops” even when said chops are used to make fancy free “wild” music. The ones who are unable to mimic make original stuff. Not a question of influences, intent and integrity so much as inability to get in on the trend. Incappable-rock. I think that is silent winner.

                                    11th hour stubble Within the punk adjacent music community (or whatver), a place briming with amateurism and potential, we may be putting too much stock into the “quick study” archetype. The folks who can mimic are the ones with “chops” even when said chops are used to make fancy free “wild” music. The ones who are unable to mimic make original stuff. Not a question of influences, intent and integrity so much as inability to get in on the trend. Incappable-rock. I think that is silent winner.

                                    100% agree! like smashing the table screaming 'that's right' agree. the thing that drew me to spending 60% of my day wasting time on DIY matters was the old school amateurism 'anyone can do it' shite... and in sydney where it's so hard to make rent, the great bands were always the ones squeezing in a 3 hour practice once a week around their shit jobs and forcing whatever can be found in that timeframe into some tunes. the most boring music imo is the shit that people sit there and work on and comb over until there's no texture left, no mistakes, no 'woah that part doesn't fit, but who has the time to fix it' lurches partway through a song.. like that's the essence of LIFE.

                                      11th hour stubble Agree.

                                      The weird punk mix in youtube reminded me that indeed my band originally tried to sound like those bands. This is because we liked them, and to some extent I still do! However, we failed miserably. Unable to record the "right" shit fi, use delay on vocals, no access to even remotely decent gear, etc. Probably my band is just as much of a relic of that era as the others, but we did evolve a bit and sounded less like those groups (just more like others, although at a certain point we stopped talking about influences altogether and just were making stuff).

                                      The true standouts of that era: tyvek, home blitz, ... already had a different sound then, and continue to evolve even more.